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Gray: Corporate profits built on sand

MAM's Martin Gray says he remains bearish on global growth so is sticking with low-risk assets.

By Thomas McMahon Follow
Wednesday August 01, 2012


It’s still too early to buy equities, according to FE Alpha Manager Martin Gray (pictured), who says that investors should be wary when managers talk of the strong balance sheets of corporates and their cheap valuations. 

 Many professionals have argued that with stocks looking cheap on a historical basis and blue-chip companies recording strong profits, now is the time to buy, but Gray, who runs CF Miton Special Situations and CF Miton Strategic Portfolio, says equities may still have further to fall. 

 The manager, who runs CF Miton Special Situations and CF Miton Strategic Portfolio, says the current strong performance of corporates is built on shaky ground, and he is not thinking of moving back into riskier assets. 

ALT_TAG “Corporates are going to struggle to maintain their profits. Revenues are getting constricted: they are falling or struggling to remain stable. You have to ask how long they will be able to maintain their bottom line.”

“You can squeeze margins – and real wage growth has been broadly negative on and off over the past decade – but how long can that continue?”

“Investors need to be wary. If global growth goes through a slow period over the next few years and potentially goes negative, on that basis profits may not go up.”

“I still think there are too many investment professionals living in the 80s and 90s who think there is only one place to invest and that’s equities,” he said.

Data from FE Analytics shows that Gray made 5.89 per cent in 2008 while his peer group lost 19.8 per cent.

Performance of Martin Gray vs a peer group composite over 5yrs

ALT_TAG Source: FE Analytics


He managed this by calling the crisis before it occurred and switching into lower-risk assets, and he says the signs of the imminent crash were there in the irrational behaviour of investors.

“We are now getting a dose of reality. In 2007 there was very little reality in the investment world; it was all about piling into the fastest-growing investments. The attitude was ‘don’t worry, we’ll just gear up some more’.”

“I’ve been invested in low-risk assets over the past five years and I see no reason to change that right now. I can’t see myself switching into higher-risk investments any time soon.”

 Rathbone’s chief investment officer Julian Chillingworth told FE Trustnet last week that equities are currently the only place to be for income investors, with yields on fixed-income investments tightening. 

Gray agrees there is the potential for strong yields in the asset class, but argues that the risk to capital outweighs this.

“So as long as you are prepared to take the capital risk, that’s ok. It’s then a question of what level you buy your yield at.”

“I would be looking at equities 10 to 20 per cent lower than they are right now before I even think about buying, maybe even more.”

“There have been opportunities to buy yielding investments over the past few years but now is not one of them.”

 “If we start to see the S&P 500 at the 1200 mark I might think about it, but now it’s at 1370-ish and I’m not interested at all.” 

“I think things are going to get even cheaper in the future.”

“We are investing in low-risk assets and trying to eke out returns from the bond markets. We have some cash deposits which we’re trying to eke returns out of with currency plays. We are looking at prime property. These are the areas we are more focused on rather than equities.”

Gray says it’s impossible to see how the eurozone in particular will pull itself out of its long slump, and he is scathing of the politician’s efforts so far.

“The leadership in Europe in particular has been appalling. At least now they seem to have understood what the problem is, even if we seem no closer to a solution.”

“I sold out of everything euro-denominated in 2009 when I saw the writing on the wall and I still see no reason to hold anything in the currency.”



 
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Theo Aug 01st, 2012 at 06:35 PM

I fully agree with Martin Grey's views, it was a pleasure to read them. I also looked up his two funds named above and their performance record seemed top notch to me. I was completely baffled as to why TN only gave them 2 crowns, which made them below average. It needs looking into.

I would be inclined to buy either of the two funds, but their charges (TER 2.13% in the case of the Strategic fund) are ridiculous. Fund houses should use past performance as the clinching argument to make sales. When they off set it by high charges, they have nothing special to offer.

Fund charges in this country are among the highest in the world and double those of the US. Small investors have a duty to resist them or be ground into the dust.

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Paul Gambles Aug 11th, 2012 at 01:30 PM

Theo, n every wlak of life you have to pay a premium for quality - which isn't the same as saying that if you pay a premium, you get quality...because that's not always the case. Spec Sits and Strategic have achieved phenomenal returns - after charges - for over 15 years in all market conditions.

If you take the charges logic too far you'll end up with the dross that has to be the cheapest because they have no other justification.

This is not a UK problem. My most successful US manager - SAC - is my most expensive. Cost is only one part of the value equation, performance is the other.

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valiant Aug 01st, 2012 at 03:55 PM

I'm invested in one of his funds and he is in my view being wiser than many of his more bullish peers. My only worry is that even he is to optimistic. Bear markets don't end with moderate corrections, they end with massivefalls and no one interested in equities. That may take months or even years but I feel that's where we are headed.

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